Post details: Karl Rove resigning: No big deal

08/14/07

Permalink 02:15:16 am, by Rossputin Email , 518 words, 173 views   English (US)
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Karl Rove resigning: No big deal

As Karl Rove announced his resignation in the Wall Street Journal, web sites across the political spectrum are fulminating about whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, about whether Rove is a genius or an idiot, about whether he'll still be the puppetmaster behind the scenes or will truly retire (at least for now.)

While it is somewhat interesting to see that people on the left and the right aren't particularly happy with Rove, the conservative side of the blogosphere seems happier to have him gone than the left does.

As usual, the wacked-out left can't seem to have a civil discussion. Consider this fairly typical comment from the DailyKos web site: "There was no way Bush was going to fire [Rove]... (even if he raped a child in the white house press room with cameras rolling...)" Or this paranoia from the same site "You can stow the "be with family" crapola. Something is up. No way Rove just quietly walks out for no reason. I'm battening down the hatches. This scares the hell out of me."

Is it my imagination or is it a bit odd for a political resignation to be deeply frightening?

Whereas we have this from the conservative Michelle Malkin: "But here’s what I find striking about Rove’s exit interview: Not a word here about the Harriet Miers debacle, the botching of the Dubai ports battle, or the undeniable stumbles in post-Iraq invasion policies. And not a word about the spectacular disaster of the illegal alien shamnesty, which will be the everlasting stain Rove leaves behind."

At least Malkin talks about ideas and policy when denigrating Rove...and for the record, I think she's pretty much on target here.

But I don't want to go too far in talking about all this Rove stuff because my real take on it is "big deal". Bush's brain certainly didn't seem to help the party in the last election and I believe he was fundamentally (pun intended) wrong to continue to place so much focus on the religious right rather than to realize that the GOP was abandoning and losing the fiscal conservative part of the Party base.

It is hard to imagine that there would have been any important role for Rove in working with the Republican nominee for the next Presidential election, much less with the next President. He is too tied to President Bush who is, whether you like it or not, very unpopular (although I agree with Rove that Bush's ratings are likely to improve noticeably before the end of his term.)

Rove is right that "it's time". It's probably a modest net positive for the GOP as it will remove the daily appearance of a target for Democratic hatred. On the other hand, it is hard to complain about the Democrats taking so much time and making themselves look so petty and useless as they pursue Rove, Gonzales and others whose only real offense that I can discern has been occasional incompetence in the midst of simply doing their jobs...in other words, the offense of being human.

Comments:

Comment from: susan boyer [Visitor] Email
Whatever the pundits. left and right have to say about Rove, he remained fiercely loyal to Bush and I believe that's a good thing. Where he was in control of campaigns, they were won. He did not control an overspending stupid GOP congress and they got the drubbing they deserved in 2006. My guess is Rove will not completely put politics behind even if his participation is clandestine. But the most fun of all for me was looking at the photo on Lucianne.com of Rove thumbing his nose and the caption reading "Far from a frog-walking." Dems never got him and boy did they try. He left on his terms, not theirs and for that I shout Bravo Karl! The final victory.
PermalinkPermalink 08/14/07 @ 11:39
Comment from: michele crean [Visitor] Email
Rossputin wrote "As usual, the wacked-out left can't seem to have a civil discussion."

Heavy sigh....

left leaning democrat here...not particularly wacked-out

I don't really give a hoot who's resigning. I'm always sure there is much inside information on both sides which I am not privy to.

As far as I'm concerned, Bush is who he is...so is "THE Vice President formerly known as Cheney" who would like to have his face just be a set of pixels now. Not a bit of any of it matters.

We have real problems. Like the free market system, when Americans start demanding that the problems are dealt with, they will be. Supply and demand.
PermalinkPermalink 08/27/07 @ 21:17
Comment from: Rossputin [Member] Email · http://www.rossputin.com
Michele,
I'm not sure what your point is.
PermalinkPermalink 08/27/07 @ 21:19
Comment from: michele crean [Visitor] Email
Ross:

First, your "wacked-out left" comment is insulting. I've met many wacked out people, some left and some right.

Secondly, I was agreeing with you that it isn't really a big deal that Rove has left. I'm sure there is more to the story, but it isn't a big deal anyway.

Bush has his opinions even though people have called Rove "Bush's Brain." Nothing much will change just because Rove leaves, that includes the rest of this administration.

I called my VERY left Uncle in Md. when it was announced and he had a similar guarded reaction to the news as you stated from the blogs. I never really got why he would be worried about this.

But for the record...yes Rove and Gonzales have shown occasional incompetence in doing their jobs. I'm sorry, but I'm not as likely to forgive that. We can't have incompetence in the Justice Dept. at all. This Justice Dept. has created some real dents in the face of the Constitution. Doesn't that worry you at all?
PermalinkPermalink 08/27/07 @ 21:46
Comment from: Rossputin [Member] Email · http://www.rossputin.com
Michele, again you over generalize from a specific statement. I didn't say the entire left was "wacked-out". I talked about the part of the left that I do consider to be unhinged.

Interestingly, to me, your reaction demonstrates a trait that I find much more common among liberals than among conservatives: To take political discussions personally. It seems like people on the left look for reasons to feel insulted, as if it somehow makes them feel better or superior. It's safe to assume that when I'm writing about Democratic politicians or the "wacked-out left", I'm not talking about you.

Yes, Gonzales' effect on the Justice Department concerns me and if you read my blog you will see I have not been supportive of Gonzales.
PermalinkPermalink 08/28/07 @ 07:12
Comment from: michele crean [Visitor] Email
Ross, the problem with you answer is that I don't see you mentioning the "wacked out" part of the right much.

I get it, that you aren't speaking about me. I'm just pointing out that, whether you like it or not, there appears to be a bias in your writings, letting the wacked out portion of the right off the hook.

When you make a statement like "As usual, the wacked-out left...", you aren't making a specific comment, as you claim to be.

I just find it hard to have an honest conversation about issues when we start with a comment like that. I could start all of my answers to your posts with "As usual, the wacked-out Right..." but I don't think you would take me very seriously.

Lets just agree to disagree on this topic and I'll stop pointing it out.
PermalinkPermalink 08/28/07 @ 11:11
Comment from: Rossputin [Member] Email · http://www.rossputin.com
Michele,

The right is rarely "wacked out" even when they're wrong.

And I never said I'm unbiased...just that I'm rational. Bias can be entirely rational. I don't pretend to be a "fair and balanced" news outlet. My site is opinion...my opinion (or that of guest writers). So not only don't I apologize for displaying bias, I promise you that I will continue to do so!

You're free to write with left-leaning bias if you start your own blog.

Until then, you'll just have to realize that if you read my site, you get my opinion and that I have strong opinions and that those opinions include a strong belief that in general the left is far less susceptible to logic or rationality than conservatives or libertarians.
PermalinkPermalink 08/28/07 @ 11:34

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