Congratulations to the winners; condolences to the nation

Wow, am I glad that's over. It went about as I predicted in terms of a very substantial Obama victory, with his winning most "swing states". Let's just say the the next two years or four will give those of us who believe that America represents the ideals of the Founders rather than the ideals of Barack Obama and his far-left associates and supporters plenty of fodder to write and speak about. That is if the Democrats don't successfully muzzle all dissent. I have often said in trading that people tend not to learn from mistakes if the mistakes aren't expensive enough. That's just what's happening here. America has just made what I expect is the worst political decision of my lifetime...probably worse than Jimmy Carter in the sense that Carter ran as something different than he was but Obama is running as a socialist with very little respect or love for his country. It will be a very expensive mistake and, I expect, much more expensive for the lower and lower-middle class Americans whom Obama marketed to during this election. All that said, there is no doubt that the GOP is getting what it deserves for spitting on the legacy of Reagan by their pork-barrel spending, corruption, pandering, and generally being so obviously in pursuit of power rather than principle. I'm not sad to see the GOP get bludgeoned, with a few exceptions such as Bob Schaffer here in Colorado and John Sununu in New Hampshire. I hope those guys get back in the game when the board isn't tilted so heavily against them. It will be interesting to see whether liberal Republicans (such as the Senators from Maine) stick with the GOP or vote with Dems when it comes to filibuster issues. It will also be interesting to see if there comes a situation where there would be 60 votes to end a filibuster whether Joe Lieberman votes with the Republicans to uphold a filibuster. One of the worst things about this outcome is that it means we'll never get real investigation into the massive voter fraud that we know about by ACORN and the likely fraud in Obama's millions of undisclosed "small donors". I'm sad and somewhat frightened for our nation, but we shall survive. Over the next couple of years, the GOP needs to return to truly standing for liberty and limited government, to remake the party of Madison and Reagan. If they just become "not Democrats", that won't be enough to win unless the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans have been for most of the past 8 years. And now that I mention it, I certainly wouldn't put it past them to be that bad.
  • Abe
    Comment from: Abe
    11/05/08 @ 02:07:33 am

    Ross, I don't think the Dems will be "that bad." The Republicans will need to learn to be a more inclusive party and attract minorities. I only voted for one Democrat today -- Barack Obama. While I consider myself an independent -- it is easier for me to identify with the Democratic party over the Republican party. This is not because of policy. I am far more libertarian than the average Dem (in large part because of you and Don Boudreax). But I believe that you are the company you keep. And their is a significant portion of the Republican party that is divisive, xenophobic, and think they are morally superior to those with dissenting views. Republicans must be 1) fiscally conservative, and 2) inclusive of an America that is both ethnically diverse and ideologically and theologically diverse. I don't believe this is a mandate for socialist ideology. I think this is a mandate against the fiscal irresponsibility and wars of the past 8 years. That is the change I believe in. -Abe

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    11/05/08 @ 05:48:21 am

    Abe, First, thanks very much for the compliment. Second, I agree with you on almost everything you said. But there is one important issue I believe bears discussion, and that is "diversity". If you look at the history of the civil rights movement, most resistance to improvement in civil rights for Blacks came from Democrats. But even separate from what actually happened, there's a broader point. The Democrats practice group-based, usually "victim group-based" politics, offering sympathy and preferences to every group except heterosexual white men. Democrats are explicit about discussing Americans in terms of what sub-group they're part of. Democrats support, for example, hate crime legislation, which I think is a travesty. A crime is a crime. Republicans (at least decent conservative or libertarian-leaning ones) emphasize the value of the individual, the superiority of the individual to the state, etc., without regard to that person's race, gender, etc. The Republican Party is inherently open to diversity. They just don't pander to force diversity the way the Dems do by basically offering steal money from one group to give to another. I would argue that the Dems are inherently far more xenophobic than the GOP. You and I would agree that the GOP gets off track when it comes to issues like drug legalization or gay marriage. I should clarify with the latter: I am against gay marriage because I believe government should be out of the marriage business entirely, but I believe any two people should be able to make any contract they want that doesn't hurt someone else. Therefore, I support the GOP's opposition to gay marriage but for different reasons than they do. (I note that bans on gay marriage have done very well in this election including, it seems at this point, in California.) What I do object to is the huge amount of time and energy spent by the GOP on gay marriage, abortion, and other social issues, at least at the federal level. On the other hand, the party's positions on social issues, even if different from mine, don't disqualify it in my view. I would gladly support the GOP if it returned to effectively advocating for liberty and limited government.

  • susan boyer
    Comment from: susan boyer
    11/05/08 @ 06:03:33 am

    Abe, you are humorous. How can you think "you are the company you keep" then vote for Obama. I'm looking for consistency and there isn't a whole lot of it around it seems to me in either party and even among libertarians.

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    11/05/08 @ 06:07:58 am

    Sue, you're basically right, but it's not like McCain was great company to keep.

  • Bob Piccard
    Comment from: Bob Piccard
    11/05/08 @ 07:36:51 am

    Take heart, Ross. As you said a while back, thee economy is such a catastrophe that no one will be able to restore it and Obama will take the blame. No matter what he wants, he can't end this obscene war fast enough to satisfy anyone and now that the Democrats are strong enough, they'll start behaving like Republicans. There will be Democratic Stevenses and Cunninghams quite soon. In four years you'll be happy.

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    11/05/08 @ 07:52:10 am

    very interesting points, Bob. One thing I need to clear up: I didn't say that the economy won't improve and that Obama will take the blame. I said that the bad economy will constrain some of his ability to tax and spend. It's not about Democrats coming to act like Republicans. Don't forget, just a few years ago it was Republicans who had come to act like Democrats. What it is...is politicians in power coming to act like they are confident they will retain power. Party is irrelevant. It will only make me happy to see the Dems do badly if the GOP offers a better alternative.

  • Mike DePinto
    Comment from: Mike DePinto
    11/05/08 @ 08:38:40 am

    Ross, I too understand your distress over the election of a man who sees his job as that of a modern Robin Hood. I can only hope that his rhetoric fades, and like most politicians. he takes back his promises and accomplishes little. That said, we witnessed a historic event last night. It is unlikely that I, you, nor most of your readers can truly appreciate the emotional impact of this election for African Americans. Most of the people we know have not experienced racism. To elect an African American (even one with frightening economic policies) marks a day in American history many thought would never come in their lifetimes. This is the election that proves anyone can become President of the United States. I personally revel in the experience.

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    11/05/08 @ 09:35:35 am

    I hope that this is the end of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton making livings by saying that black people are kept down in this country.

  • Mister Guy
    Comment from: Mister Guy
    11/06/08 @ 07:51:58 pm

    "Obama is running as a socialist with very little respect or love for his country." Keep the blather right on coming there...you'll really never learn. "we'll never get real investigation into the massive voter fraud that we know about by ACORN" You really should be writing fiction instead of commenting on politics...too funny... "The Republicans will need to learn to be a more inclusive party and attract minorities." Exactly...the GOP is doomed otherwise...the country is not going to demographically look like "Joe the Plumber" is a very short period of time IMO. "most resistance to improvement in civil rights for Blacks came from Democrats" ...and now those same, racist people vote almost exclusively for the GOP. Can you say "Southern Strategy"?? "The Republican Party is inherently open to diversity." LOL...which is why, when you look at them, they are so "diverse"...please... "I hope that this is the end of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton making livings by saying that black people are kept down in this country." Right...it's basically the "end of racism"...as if!

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    11/06/08 @ 08:02:16 pm

    Mister Guy, I am not going to respond to your last comment except to say that I'm done allowing you to waste my time and my readers time with such tripe. I have published every submitted comment to this blog that wasn't spam, porn, or simply swearing at me. But your notes are just such a waste of time between the insults, the stupid "LOL" and calling things "funny" which obviously aren't, with your constant sarcasm. Even that could be tolerated, if barely, if you ever had anything important to add, but you don't. So I will not be publishing your comments any longer until and unless you send something that is about issues, principles, and things that matter, rather than insults, "LOL", etc. You may not like what I write, but I think I'm pretty good at it and at least at one place I'm good enough to get paid to do it. If you think you can do better, please start your own blog. Good bye.

  • Mike DePinto
    Comment from: Mike DePinto
    11/07/08 @ 12:48:12 am

    Living in Los Angeles, I find it consistently frustrating discussing politics with liberals here. Their arguments come from a place of emotion, self-righteousness, and narrow mindedness. They see themselves as open, progressive, and fair. In reality, they have merely convinced themselves that their position is self-evident and should stand on its obvious moral pedestal. Anyone who disagrees with them is a pariah who should be shunned. Rarely is logic employed to support their fallacious economic and social fantasies. More often than not, a dismissive "Please!" or "That's ridiculous" is all they can muster to offset a reasoned rebuttal to their proposals for social equality and "progressive" economic policies. Liberals, please get off your high horses and learn to use the tools of reason, logic, and humility. I will happily discuss the finer points of capitalism vs. socialism as long as my points are not invalidated by your mightier than thou attitude.

  • The Freak
    Comment from: The Freak
    11/11/08 @ 06:28:06 pm

    Mike, I object to your statement that "Ross, I too understand your distress over the election of a man who sees his job as that of a modern Robin Hood." Obama and Robin Hood could not be more different. Obama proposes to take money from those who produce it and give it to those who don't. Robin Hood took money from those who didn't produce it and return it to those who produced it and from whom it was taken by unfair taxation. Freak.